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  Snakes had legs until Eden curse! Watchtower 1880 till 1974!!!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  often flicking through watchtower bound volumes i would see pictures of eden which shows the snake in the tree of knowledge with legs??

  even the photo drama of creation shows a snake with legs.. watchtower 1964 p.352 "genisis 3;14 {snake}on your belly you will go and dust you shall eat...before god curse it the snake had legs, that elivated it above the ground...god transformed it's body so that it ceased to have legs and was able to move on it's belly.".

  god's eternal purpose 1974 "god did not put a curse on the whole serpent family...it had only been victimized by satan.. forrest gump watchtower science is price-less!.

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  i never knew snakes ate dust.
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  Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.

  see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.

  so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.

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  talking about shunning.

  My ex wife shuns our son because he decided to leave.

  3 of my friends from my teens / early 20's each shun one or more of their kids for the same reason.

  So why would i want them as friends any more ?

  All you faders still dithering on the fence for fear of losing conditional " friends" just bear in mind the cult still has that hold on you. But will jehovah remember you come armageddon ?
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  Shaking Down Satan - WT Sues Norway

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i wonder how many witnesses are aware that the wt and their team of lawyers are currently suing the government of norway for millions of dollars?

  i thought that the wt taught that all the governments were run by satan.

  when i was a witness, this would have really bothered me.

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  in the picture, is a woman in a blue skirt

  and a groping hand
  
  
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  Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.

  see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.

  so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.

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  Elderberry :

  
  Jan from Tam you don’t understand the fading or JWlite option. Yes you can openly celebrate birthdays and other things once you are known as an inactive JW with no shunning needed.
  You have the best of both worlds without any disadvantages. You have more advantages than a pimi because you will be so love bombed and given all the food at gatherings
  you will be offered lifts and even accommodation and things like that.

  oh this is soo funny. Its YOU that dont understand jw fading.

  "given all the food at gatherings " what part of the planet are you on ?
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  Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.

  see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.

  so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.

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  f there was a situation where someone like this had drifted away and needed help with something like moving or something then the entire cong would bring food round and brothers would come and move your furniture and sisters would come and clean both the old place and the new place.

  ha ha--thats ridiculous--just using people for what you can get out of them
  
  
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  Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.

  see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.

  so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.

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  stan livedeath

  i decided in my 20-s i didnt want to be a dub any more--i had no interest in any religion--or belief in a god. Total nonsense,

  I had grown up in the cult--baptised at 14, pioneered--a servant--married at 20 to a fanatical born in 3rd gen. But i was living a lie.

  So--i resigned. But still attended a few meetings a year to stop the incessant nagging. No door knocking--no answering up--no praying ( which i hated anyway ). Just a bum on a seat--BUT I WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE--several other men in the hall were the same. BUT I WAS NEVER SHUNNED--by family, friends or other congregants.

  This state of affairs continued for several years--till i ended up having one--an affaire that is--with one of the married sisters in the cong. Oops.

  She was d.f'd--but apparently it was announced that i COULDNT be d/f--as i wasnt a JW ! Proof it had worked ! SO i was to be treated as apostate ( whatever that meant ? )---and to be treated as if d/f. Fine by me. No more meetings--ever again Free at last !

  I was immediately shunned--although not by my family. My dub wife got a quick divorce--which i believe she had wanted for years. So--every body was happy.

  So--back then "fading" hadnt been given that title--just something a lot of people did--rather than do something really naughty and being d/f.

  Since my escape ive met lots of long term inactive jws who simply stopped going. But still identified as jw. --why not--if it makes their life easier.?
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  How will J.W's spin this latest Space Discovery ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wonder how j.w's, and other believers in a creator god, will spin this latest discovery to fit their model ?.

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67950749.

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  jehovahs new residence.
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  God cannot lie

  by psyco in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.

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  so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.

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  the bleedin obvious--- ( for those who just dont get it )

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJSyGlmT3lk
  
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  Smoking

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is it likely to be removed from the list of disfellowshippable offences?

  given that the ban on smoking 🚬 is completely unbiblical*, might they ever remove it?.

  *even mainstream christianity can only come up with one verse "against" it, the one that says that the body is the temple of the holy spirit.

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  Didnt jehovah enjoy a restful smoke ?
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  Hotels for convention

  by ElderBerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a department in bethel wants to try to make money from regional conventions by asking local hotels if they will give a special rate and a coupon code to give to jws.. .

  they should just keep it simple and not be greedy for dishonest gain.. .

  this year some convention sites the hotels said no thank you i think the jws are going to book with us anyway.

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  stan livedeath

  ive got a better idea for saving money on hotel bills...

  dont go to the assembly.

  simples.